From the ACLU, this is at Liberty and my name is Debbie Kamau Bell. Welcome back to the show.

Hey, everybody, it's me Kamau. You may recognize me from seven seasons of CNN's United Chates of America.

We won four Emmys. Or you may recognize me from my four-part docus series about

Bill Cosby. We want a Peabody. Or you may recognize me from just the ACLU. I do the commercials on your

cable news networks. They've never won awards. My dad's very proud. And I was on this podcast as a guest in 2019.

But bigger than that, I've been the ACLU's artist ambassador for racial justice for 11 years. Yeah, who knew?

My dad's very proud of that. Also, my mom, too. But that's neither here nor there. I am excited to be the new host for the podcast at Liberty through the end of the year. We're just going to see what happens with this whole America experiment until then. Twice a month, I'll be bringing you conversation with leaders, legal experts, and storytellers who are dedicated to the fight for civil rights and civil liberties. We love all those things. And right now, today, I'm excited to share a conversation live from the city of Brotherly Love, Philadelphia,

if you don't know what the city of Brotherly Love is. This is part of the ACLU's Know Your Rights

Bus Tour. This monthly, ACLU hit the road with artists, influencers, advocates, and community

members, host events in six cities to make sure that voters know their rights and have a voting

plan. Make sure you know your rights and also have a voting plan.

For our stop in Philly, I sat down with Mike Lee, executive director of the ACLU of Pennsylvania.

Mike is Philly born and raised.

We talked about that.

And he has a long history of championing criminal justice reform and challenging discrimination against marginalized communities in the state.

We talked about that too.

We also talked about his perfect day. Anyway, check it out. Please welcome executive director of the ACLU of Pennsylvania,

Mike Lee. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

So first of all, it seems like some people in here might be familiar with your work. Is that true?

One or two, yes. You are correct.

So as somebody, I lived in Philly for a little bit when I went to college here, and

Philly always brings me back. I think Philly means a lot of things, a lot of people,

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