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Well, Phil, how are you feeling right now

because we are hitting the record button

straight after that press conference at Thorpearch?

Before we get into the content of what he said,

just describe the atmosphere in that room today for us. Well, there was a journalist up there,

Matt Dickinson, who's a very good writer from The Times. It's the first time he's ever

been to Beelsa press conference. And he said to me beforehand, these can be quite interesting,

can't they? And I said, well, yeah, and it depends very much the mood that he also turns up in. If he's ready for a bit of a fight, there'll be like nothing you've ever seen. If he doesn't have much to say for himself, he can actually be out of these in 14 minutes. And to be honest, if I owned the bookmakers and had some interest from Leeds, I think I would start running books on how long his presses are going to go for over or under 45 minutes. And this was this was an hour,

I was epic today. And at the end of it, Matt turned to me and he said, I feel absolutely

exhausted after that, after an hour of listening to him. And it was him who asked the last question.

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