At COP30, the economic logic of climate action is up for debate
Zero: The Climate Race
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🗓️ 6 November 2025
⏱️ 30 minutes
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Summary
World leaders are gathering in Belem, Brazil, for the COP30 climate negotiations, but what will be achieved? Brazil hasn’t given much indication of what it hopes will emerge from the negotiations, other than implementing the many promises of previous COPs. This week on Zero, Akshat Rathi sits down with COP30 President, André Corrêa do Lago, to try and figure out how the negotiations might turn out.
Explore further:
- Find all the latest news from COP30 here: https://www.bloomberg.com/latest/cop-climate-summit
- Listen to our previous conversation with Andre Correa do Lago: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-11-21/cop29-brazil-s-plans-for-next-year-s-cop30-in-belem
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| 0:00.0 | People are going to hate me. I won't move on with my life. And I was so petrified of being dragged across the coals for reporting them. And I still am. |
| 0:12.0 | My name is Laura Hughes. And for the past two years, I've been uncovering the United Kingdom's perplexing relationship with lead. |
| 0:20.5 | What I found has shocked me. |
| 0:24.4 | From the Financial Times, this is untold. |
| 0:27.9 | Toxic legacy. |
| 0:30.2 | Out now. |
| 0:31.6 | Welcome to Zero. I am Akshatrati. |
| 0:34.1 | This week, a conversation with the COP 30 president. |
| 0:47.0 | It is the 6th of November and I have made it to Brazil, where today world leaders are gathering in Berlin to kick off COP 30, the annual |
| 0:56.1 | United Nations Climate Conference. |
| 0:59.0 | It is a strange year to be hosting a COP meeting. |
| 1:02.2 | On the one hand, it's a year to celebrate the 10th anniversary of the Paris Agreement, the signature |
| 1:07.9 | achievement of these climate negotiations. |
| 1:16.5 | On the other hand, the US, the world's second largest emitter, said in January that it would withdraw from the Paris Agreement. |
| 1:19.1 | Though the formal exit won't happen till 2026, the US has also said that they will be sending |
| 1:24.7 | no major government representatives to Bel-en. |
| 1:29.3 | To add to the troubles, recent multilateral climate negotiations at the International Maritime |
| 1:34.3 | Organization and during the Plastics Treaty conversation, have fallen apart in spectacular fashion, |
| 1:41.3 | mainly driven by the US that is making concerted efforts to wreck |
| 1:46.4 | climate policies globally. |
| 1:49.4 | In the face of that, it's been frustrating for many climate advocates that Brazil hasn't |
| 1:54.3 | given any real indication of what it hopes to achieve from COP-13 negotiations. |
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