I got my bags packed on a roll heading out there and I'm ready to go looking real good

in my passport photo

Oh no amateur, episode 647. Today the Amateur Traveler talks about art museums and

Western culture, hikes, petroglyphs, and Suwaro Cactus as we go to Phoenix, Arizona.

I know that I should be heading home,

but maybe not, maybe not today.

Welcome to the Amateur Traveler, I'm your host Chris Christensen. Let's talk about Phoenix.

I'd like to welcome back to the show Cindy Carlson from exploration vacation.net

who has come to talk to us about Phoenix

Cindy welcome to the show

hi Chris thanks for having me Or welcome back to the show.

Cindy was here about a hundred episodes ago.

I was surprised it was that long ago talking about Northern Vietnam.

And if you haven't heard that episode, I like that episode obviously because otherwise she

would be back so Cindy we are talking about a much more domestic

destination this time and what's your connection with Phoenix?

My mother's been down there about 30 years now and so I've been going down there pretty regularly

since about 1995, spending sometimes just a few days and sometimes spending even a couple

weeks down there exploring the area.

Excellent.

So she is a snowbird in the language of the area.

Yes, my parents are snowbirds.

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