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🗓️ 20 August 2025
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The government's asylum accommodation scheme is in turmoil - after the High Court ruled migrants must be removed from an Epping Hotel. As other councils look set to follow suit, where will asylum seekers go now?
Hugo Rifkind unpacks the politics of the day with Alice Thomson and Robert Crampton.
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| 0:28.4 | podcasts. Hello, this is Hugo Rifkin and now we're going to be unpacking the politics of the day |
| 0:41.1 | and the stuff that's even more important than politics, too. |
| 0:44.0 | From trouble at the home office as councils try to block asylum hotels to why the super rich are leaving Britain, |
| 0:49.4 | while also sparing a thought for the best songs for your funeral. |
| 0:52.4 | And joining me are two of the finest minds from The Times and the Sunday Times. And speaking of the best, Alice Thompson, hello Alice Thompson. Hi. Good to have you with us. And our very own Lord of All hopefulness, Robert. Hello. You can have the hymns, it. Yeah, you can have the hymns. |
| 1:27.5 | I like that hymn. Anyway, if you're both abide with me for now, we'll crack on and cover some of these stories with perhaps fewer hymn-based puns. Look, we've got a lot to cover, so let's move fast. I want to start with this big issue of the migrant hotels. It's the front of every paper today. The High Court ruled yesterday that asylum seekers should be removed from the Bell Inn in Epping |
| 1:31.3 | after a challenge from the council on planning grounds. |
| 1:34.6 | Other councils announced that they planned similar action on hotels in their areas, unsurprisingly, |
| 1:39.1 | prompting the obvious question, where will asylum seekers go now? |
| 1:43.0 | Times Radio Breakfast asked the security minister Dan |
| 1:46.1 | Jarvis, just that. He did not have an alternative to hand. Of course, we're looking at a range of |
| 1:51.6 | different contingency options following from a legal ruling that took place yesterday. And we'll look |
| 1:57.3 | closely at what we're able to do. But as I say, the bigger picture challenge that |
| 2:01.3 | we're dealing with. But could you give some examples of where that might be? Might it be blocks of |
| 2:04.2 | flats, university accommodation, army bases? Well, I would gently point out that there's been a single |
| 2:10.4 | specific legal ruling that took place yesterday. Whereas Richard Tice from Reform did have a few |
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