And just one more caveat with Martine Maldonado is his ability to be kind of that chameleon inside the clubhouse.

I think that's where he's going to, he provided a lot of stability for the Astros.

He's bilingual.

He understands the Latin community in a clubhouse.

He understands the in the shaking community in the clubhouse. And I think that's where I think it's kind of interesting that he found himself in an organization that kind of has a lot of talent, but maybe needs a little more guidance inside the clubhouse. And that's where I think he's a good fit for the Chicago White Sox. And I like Martine. You guys are going to love him. He's knowledgeable.

He speaks well with the media.

And it should be a good time for him on the South Side.

That's Jeff Blum.

He had a good time on the South Side in 05, hitting the game-winning home run for the White Sox in game three of the 2005 World Series.

And as a TV analyst, ironically, for the Houston Astros,

he's had a front row seat watching what Martine Maldonado has meant to the Astros

in winning two-world Series behind the plate.

Well, Jeff shares a ton of wisdom about Maldonado and what he will bring to the White Sox

on this edition of the White Sox Talk podcast brought to you by Win Trust. Hey, everybody, it's Chuck Garfine.

And when the news broke that the White Sox were signing Maldonado, the reaction on social media

was very much in the negative.

I mean, you look at his numbers, both offensively for his career and then defensively,

last season when his numbers went off a cliff, it might appear that Maldonado was done

or very close to done for his career.

But for many who played with him,

coached him, or watched him every day like Jeff Blum did last season,

they say there's much more to Maldonado than his stats,

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