Astrology, Fate, and Destiny

The Astrology Podcast

Chris Brennan

Religion & Spirituality, Spirituality, Religion

4.7 • 1.5K Ratings

🗓️ 4 May 2025

⏱️ 150 minutes

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Summary

In episode 489 astrologers Chris Brennan and Leisa Schaim discuss their views on astrology, fate, and destiny. This is part of a new series exploring our personal view on the philosophy of astrology, and in particular exploring the relevance of some ancient Stoic concepts related to fate and determinism. While most of the episodes of the podcast are usually more technically oriented, the purpose of this series is to begin to articulate some of the philosophical and spiritual views that we have developed based on our practice of astrology. This episode is available in both audio and video versions below. Leisa's website with info on her upcoming zodiacal releasing workshop: https://www.leisaschaim.com Chris' ancient astrology course: https://courses.theastrologyschool.com Timestamps 00:00:00 Exploring Astrology's Philosophical Foundations 00:03:53 Fate, Free Will, and the Stoic Perspective 00:09:26 Astrology vs. Scientific Materialism 00:11:16 The Role of Fate in Personal Growth 00:17:34 Understanding Predetermined Events in Life 00:21:10 The Interplay of Fate and Free Will 00:27:12 The Internal and External Aspects of Fate 00:32:40 Zodiacal Releasing and Life's Turning Points 00:35:40 Finding Meaning in Predetermined Choices 00:38:45 The Nature of Experience and Free Will 00:40:06 Astrology and Personal Growth 00:41:54 Understanding Control and External Circumstances 00:44:10 The Limitations of Control in Astrology 00:48:31 Electional Astrology: Navigating Choices 00:51:45 The Interplay of Timing and Fate 00:56:34 Fate, Free Will, and Life's Direction 01:01:23 The Role of Astrology in Accepting Fate 01:06:39 The Stoic Perspective on Fate and Acceptance 01:12:03 Predetermination vs. Free Will in Astrology 01:17:37 Electional Astrology and Conditional Fate 01:24:36 The Balance of Knowledge and Action in Astrology 01:31:27 The Unfolding of Fate and Personal Growth 01:39:16 Understanding Fate and Destiny in Astrology 01:45:08 The Complexity of Free Will and Fate 01:49:33 The Birth Chart: Present Life Focus 01:55:29 The Immutable Nature of the Natal Chart 01:58:38 Fate, Free Will, and Timing in Astrology 02:00:12 Finding Peace in Astrological Insights 02:03:10 Astrology as a Language of the Cosmos 02:06:34 Personal Perspectives on Astrology and Fate 02:09:21 The Importance of Technical Approaches in Astrology 02:12:25 Exploring Different Astrological Traditions 02:19:18 Leisa's zodiacal releasing workshop Watch the Video Version of This Episode https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G1wIprhk9AE – Listen to the Audio Version of This Episode Listen to the audio version of this episode or download it as an MP3:

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0:00.0	Hey, my name is Chris Brennan. You're listening to the astrology podcast.
0:03.4	Joining me today is astrologer Lisa Shime, and we're going to be talking about astrology,
0:08.3	fate, and a number of other things in a casual conversation. So, hey, Lisa. Thanks for joining.
0:14.0	Glad to be here.
0:15.0	Yeah. All right. So, yeah, so we're going to have a casual discussion today. I mentioned on the forecast episode, you know, I've been trying to thinking about and heading
0:26.0	in the direction of doing some episodes talking about my philosophy of astrology and my
0:33.0	sometimes like spiritual views on astrology because so much of my work is focused on the
0:37.2	technical aspects
0:38.5	that I sometimes don't emphasize or like talk about that point a lot, some of the philosophical
0:44.6	implications that I truly think that astrology has. So I thought we'd have a conversation
0:49.8	talking about some of that today and talking a little bit about our journey as astrologers
0:55.6	and some of the different things that we've, ways that we've changed and grown as astrologers
1:00.7	and different things that we've learned over the years.
1:03.1	Yeah, that sounds great.
1:04.3	Right up my alley as a Sagittarian.
1:06.5	Right.
1:07.6	All right.
1:08.4	So, yeah, where should we start? So one of the things we were talking about,
1:15.2	one of the things I said in my book that I argued is I think that astrology, that Hellenistic astrology,
1:23.6	and by extension, Western astrology, which is originally developed as a system for studying fate.
1:30.8	And part of what that means is that they discovered that you could cast a chart for the birth of an individual
1:38.6	and look at the alignment of the cosmos at that moment.
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