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You actually have probably the one that I would say is the toughest, which is Pluto and the fourth.

Mm-hmm.

In your chart?

Mm-hmm.

When we first, I'll never forget where we were when we were discovering all this about astrology, we were living in Kilargo.

And that gorgeous house block away from the ocean.

I was taking applied astrology level one with Deborah Silverman

and just in love with it, falling in love with my fate.

And of course, what better way to study the stars

and really get to know them than by pulling up charts of the people you know

really well.

And so now, Trilly, we looked at your chart and mine all the time.

Yep.

And you got Pluto and the fourth popped out a mama with trauma.

Yeah.

Do you ever look at that in your chart and think, oh, man, that sucks?

No, I look at some of the other things

and think that like what um well now that i know a little more and hopefully you're going to talk

about this more is my kairn in the 12th yeah um but no i think it gave me an opportunity to see things for

what they are and and really grow into who I am.

So when we discovered what that meant, which is essentially there's a lot of pain in the home

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