We're holding space, you know, kind of like monks, you know,

we're holding space, you know, who are devoting, you know, who are devoting our life to meditation.

Us devoting our life to having fun and not being scared and kind of subverting dominant paradigms by just making the other thing look cooler.

This is synchronicity. This is synchronicity. This is synchronicity. This is synchronicity. This is synchronicity.

This is synchronicity.

This is synchronicity.

This is synchronicity.

This is synchronicity, my guest this week, my guests, siblings, that's what that's called the Sissus.

My guests this week are Sean Dunn and Cass Greener.

They run a podcast called Very Ape.

This is their third appearance.

This is like lofty places to be third.

Not a lot of people. People have been here

three times. I love Sean and Cass. I go into the city, New York City. New York City.

New York City. Does anyone, that's a pace, a pace picante commercial. Anyway, this is this intro has gotten off to a great start.

I, whenever I go in the city, I try to see Sean and Cass because they're awesome and they're

fun to hang out with. And we usually have really good conversations. And this was one of those times.

And I was like, hey, you know, let's record this. And so we recorded it. And also, it's fun recording

with Sean and Cass because they give you these like space age,

kind of like super advanced like telemarketer headphones,

but they're like really nice and comfortable.

So you don't have your hands free.

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