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Boy, do we have a show for you.

You see that.

That's a Stad Herndon joining us.

My former colleague, were you contributor then when I worked at CNN?

I was. I was a contributor back. Okay, it wasn't out of the goodness of your heart.

So I'm glad that you were a contributor. So thank you. I remember, by the, we'll get into it.

But I said, I remember you being, I think it was in Brooklyn in your apartment and me being on

the set. We spent a lot of evenings together. We did. During COVID and you were one of the

first people to put me on CNN, so I was really appreciate that. Because I knew that you were a great

reporter and you were really great. So thank you very much for saying that. Also, I reached out to you.

Remember when I said, instead, when you go home, you like for the holidays,

you have the best reports with your family.

So let's talk about this.

Estead Herndon is a New York Times national political reporter

and the host of the run-up podcast.

If you haven't listened to the run-up podcast,

then you haven't really listened to a podcast.

It is really excellent.

I'm not just blowing smoke up your

ass. I think what you do is fantastic. So thank you for doing that. By the way, I said, I could probably

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