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Find face-off wherever you get your podcasts. You're going to be. All right, what's going on guys? Welcome to another episode of Bro History at Teneriesa Mota and Danny Evelgebar.

What's up, man? Happy Happy Christmas Danny. Happy Christmas I'm

chilling man. How about yourself? I'm doing pretty well. We should be

releasing this episode on Christmas so if it is Christmas day and you're listening

happy Christmas or Merry Christmas I hope you're all doing well we're in fact

recording this a couple days prior to our usual recording date. It is Tuesday, the 22nd. And right now, just to let you know

in advance, I am outside of my normal recording environment. I'm traveling so I'm not I don't have the same

recording setup that I usually have so if I don't sound super crisp then it's because I had to make a little makeshift setup right here, but I guess you guys are pretty used to our audio being somewhat inconsistent at this point, so I'm sure, you know, if you're a fan of the show you're going to forgive us.

We've actually got a system of cans set up, right?

Like cans with string in between and that's how we're recording this episode today.

Well, that's how we first started this show.

Yeah, basically. And honestly, the upgrades we've made have not been that

significant. No no not exactly now. Yeah maybe a little easier for us to work with but

it's still it's still a very grassroots operation.

Collectively the equipment we use is not state of the art.

We're using like 2014 equipment.

Yep. But you know that's grassroots for you.

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