Assignment: Spain, the kiss and the culture war
The Documentary Podcast
BBC
4.3 • 2.7K Ratings
🗓️ 1 February 2024
⏱️ 28 minutes
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Summary
When Spanish football boss Luis Rubiales kissed Jenni Hermoso after her team’s world cup victory last summer, it set a match to Spanish gender relations. On every chat show, on every campus, in every couple’s bedroom, arguments started - does a kiss count as sexual violence? What is consent? Has feminism gone too far? 53% of Spaniards think it has, and that it is discriminating against men. Now, Rubiales is facing criminal trial. “Se acabó” (it’s over) trended after the kiss, but this battle is far from over. For Assignment, Sofia Bettiza travels to Madrid to hear how the Rubiales case tapped into a rift in Spanish society that has been splitting further apart for decades.
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| 0:00.0 | Hi, I'm Una Chaplin, and I'm the host of a new podcast called Hollywood Exiles. |
| 0:05.0 | It tells the story of how my grandfather, Charlie Chaplin, and many others, were caught up in a campaign to root out communism in Hollywood. |
| 0:14.8 | Hollywood Exiles from CBC Podcasts and the BBC World Service. |
| 0:19.8 | Find it wherever you get your podcasts. |
| 0:27.2 | Thank you for downloading this episode of assignment on the documentary podcast from the BBC World Service. |
| 0:30.3 | This week we're in Madrid, asking why does more than half the Spanish population believe that |
| 0:36.1 | feminism has gone too far? |
| 0:38.8 | And do they have a point? |
| 0:40.7 | We begin at the Women's World Cup final. |
| 0:44.0 | I'm Sophia Bettica and this is the documentary for the BBC World Service. We're on assignment in Spain. |
| 0:56.4 | It was the most infamous kiss of 2023. Spain wins the Women's Football World Cup for the first time. |
| 1:10.0 | There's jubilation in the stadium. |
| 1:12.7 | And then it happens. |
| 1:14.2 | Louis Rubiales, the president of the Spanish Football Federation at the time, |
| 1:19.2 | grabs the face of team captain Janier Moso and kisses it on the lips. |
| 1:24.4 | The man with the big bear hugs, Louis Rubiales. |
| 1:28.0 | Ermoso later said the kiss was not consensual. On every chat show on every campus in every |
| 1:36.4 | couple's bedroom people were talking about kissgate. Does a kiss count as |
| 1:42.3 | sexual violence and what is consent? |
| 1:48.0 | Everyone's had enough of this kind of behavior. |
| 1:51.0 | I don't care how elated he was. I mean if it was consensual or not I think |
| 1:55.0 | it was just a spur of the moment thing that happened. People were demanding an apology |
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