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The Documentary Podcast

Assignment: Germany’s AI detectives

The Documentary Podcast

BBC

Society & Culture, Documentary, Personal Journals

4.32.6K Ratings

🗓️ 25 June 2024

⏱️ 27 minutes

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Summary

In late 2023 a group of German journalists released a podcast series, Legion: Most Wanted. It described their ultimately unsuccessful search for a terrorist suspect, Daniela Klette, using an AI facial recognition tool. She had been on the run for more than 30 years, together with two accomplices. The trio are believed by the police to have been members of the Red Army Faction, the RAF, an anti-imperialist terrorist group, often referred to as the Baader Meinhof gang. The RAF claimed responsibility in the late 1980s and early 1990s for the assassination of a number of prominent Germans. None of these crimes has ever been cleared up.

Transcript

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0:00.0

Welcome to the documentary on the BBC World Service and welcome to assignment. I'm Tim Mansell.

0:06.0

This story begins with a podcast.

0:08.0

We are Legion.

0:11.0

A podcast made by a group of German journalists at the end of 2023.

0:15.0

And that is Ligian, most wanted.

0:18.0

A podcast in which they used artificial intelligence to track down one of Germany's most wanted criminals.

0:26.0

I'm Patrick Schigerman. I'm the co-founder of Andine

0:30.0

it's a podcast studio in Berlin.

0:40.0

You'll find the undone premises in a converted industrial space in Kreuzberg, a district of Berlin close to where the Wall used to run.

0:44.0

Patrick tells me the story.

0:50.0

They'd had an email from a listener who said he'd been at a party some years ago in Cologne.

0:57.0

There was an older woman there, and at some point in the evening she'd taken him aside and showed him an old poster. It was a wanted

1:05.6

poster, an array of mug shots, all suspected terrorists from a group called

1:11.0

the R.A-F.

1:13.0

She'd pointed at one of the pictures and said,

1:16.0

that's me.

1:18.0

The name under the picture was Daniela Kletta.

1:22.0

The guy went back home after the party and he Googled R. A.F. a terrorist woman.

1:30.0

So he found the picture of the Nila Clete.

1:32.0

And then he looked at the picture of his friend he met at the party

1:36.0

and said, yeah, it could be, maybe she's the Mille Klete.

1:40.0

Daniela Kleta disappeared from public view some 30 years ago.

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