Asra Nomani on the ‘Unholy Alliance’ Between the Woke Left and the Islamist Right That Is Destabilizing America
American Thought Leaders
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🗓️ 10 May 2023
⏱️ 59 minutes
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Summary
“He came to visit a home that I was renting in Karachi, and he went off for an interview. And he never came back. The man whom he was supposed to interview had set a trap for Danny. It was actually a kidnapping scheme. And Danny was never to be seen again.”
In 2002, Wall Street Journal correspondent Asra Nomani was in Pakistan to investigate the Islamist ideology behind the 9/11 attacks—in defiance of State Department warnings—when her colleague, Daniel Pearl, was kidnapped by ISIS terrorists—and brutally beheaded.
“That was the moment that I knew, deep in my heart, that we were in this war with this extremism. And what was that extremism defined by? It was defined by sectarianism and it was defined by the most illiberal of ideas, which is that there is a hierarchy of human value in the world,” explains Nomani. “And that’s when I first confronted the fundamental idea of ‘identity’ as a weapon.”
Since then, Nomani has become an activist on many fronts, first as a Muslim reformer—“I, as a Muslim feminist, was declared ‘Islamophobic’ because I dared to challenge the sexism within my faith and the intolerance,” she says—and now as an ardent advocate of parental rights.
“They want a dumbing down of the United States of America, and that is why they came after my son’s school,” says Nomani.
She is the author of “Woke Army: The Red-Green Alliance That Is Destroying America’s Freedom.” We discuss her book and talk liberal values, the line between free speech and character assassination, Big Tech, and soft power.
“Soft power can be more damaging and can weaken a nation and a people even more than bullets or bombs,” says Nomani.
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| 0:00.0 | He came to visit a home that I was renting in Karachi, and he went off for an interview |
| 0:06.9 | and he never came back. |
| 0:08.9 | In 2002, Wall Street Journal correspondent Azerin Amani was in Pakistan to investigate |
| 0:14.0 | the Islamist ideology behind the 9-11 attacks in defiance of State Department warnings. |
| 0:19.8 | When her colleague, Daniel Pearl, was kidnapped by ISIS terrorists and brutally beheaded. |
| 0:25.2 | That was the moment that I knew we were in this war with this extremism, defined by the |
| 0:33.9 | most illiberal of ideas, which is that there is a hierarchy of human value in the world. |
| 0:40.2 | That's when I first confronted the idea of identity as a weapon. |
| 0:47.3 | Since then, Amani has become an activist on many fronts, first as a Muslim reformer, |
| 0:52.7 | and now as an ardent advocate of parental rights. |
| 0:55.9 | They want a dumbing down of the United States of America, and that is why they came after |
| 1:02.7 | my son's school. |
| 1:04.2 | She's the author of Woke Army, the Red Green Alliance that is destroying America's freedom. |
| 1:09.9 | This is American Thought Leaders, and I'm Janja Kelley. |
| 1:12.3 | Azerin Amani, so good to have you back on American Thought Leaders. |
| 1:17.7 | Oh, thank you so much. |
| 1:19.0 | It's my honor. |
| 1:20.0 | It's so nice to have you in my home. |
| 1:22.4 | It's fantastic to be here, but it's a kind of a difficult time in American history. |
| 1:29.2 | This is something you've been charting, we've discussed numerous times. |
| 1:33.9 | You've always identified yourself as a classical liberal, and is this whole idea of classical |
| 1:42.6 | liberalism here in America and perhaps beyond coming to an end? |
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