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The Dig

Aslı Bâli on Syria, Part II

The Dig

Daniel Denvir

News, Politics

4.81.7K Ratings

🗓️ 17 August 2018

⏱️ 48 minutes

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Summary

Part two of a two-part interview with Aslı Bâli on the Syrian civil war and the larger geopolitical conflicts that shape the Middle East—with an emphasis on the role played the United States. During part one, which you should definitely listen to first, Bâli discussed the various powers sacrificing the lives of Syrian people in the pursuit of their perceived geopolitical and sectarian interests. In this installment, Bâli discusses the restrictive frames that dominates the American discussion over Syria, and then assesses the lack of a coherent heterodox left-wing foreign policy in the United States—something that we desperately need as the possibility of the left taking power becomes newly plausible. Read: Remember Syria? by Bâli and Aziz Rana bostonreview.net/war-security/asli-bali-aziz-rana-trump-putin-syria and The U.S. Debt to Syria bostonreview.net/war-security/asli-u-bali-aziz-rana-us-debt-syria Live recording of The Dig coming up in New York City. Friday, August 17, 7 PM at Verso Books (20 Jay Street in Brooklyn). It's called Blockadia and Beyond: Left climate politics for the 21st century https://www.facebook.com/events/2042636042656908/?active_tab=about Thanks to Verso Books. Check out For a Left Populism by Chantal Mouffe versobooks.com/books/2748-for-a-left-populism Support this podcast with your money at patreon.com/TheDig

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This episode of The Dig is brought to you by our listeners who support us at patreon.com

0:05.4

and by Verso Books, which has loads of great left-wing titles, perfect for dig listeners like you.

0:13.9

One that you might like is For a Left Populism by Chantal Mouffe.

0:19.1

We are currently witnessing in Western Europe a populist moment

0:22.9

that signals the crisis of neoliberal hegemony. The central axis of the political conflict

0:28.9

will be between right and left-wing populism. By establishing a frontier between the people

0:34.4

and the oligarchy, a left populist strategy could bring together the manifold

0:39.6

struggles against subordination, oppression, and discrimination. This strategy acknowledges that

0:46.6

democratic discourse plays a crucial role in the political imaginary of our societies, and through

0:53.6

the construction of a collective will, mobilizing common

0:57.0

affects in defense of equality and social justice, it will be possible to combat the xenophobic

1:02.8

policies promoted by right-wing populism. In redrawing political frontiers, this populist moment

1:10.5

points to a return of the political

1:12.3

after years of post-politics.

1:14.7

This return may open the way for authoritarian solutions through regimes that weaken

1:20.2

liberal democratic institutions, but it could also lead to a reaffirmation and extension

1:26.1

of democratic values.

1:28.8

For a Left Populism by Chantal Mouf, out now from Verso Books.

1:42.8

Welcome to The Dig, a podcast from Jacobin Magazine.

1:47.0

My name is Daniel Denver, and I'm broadcasting from Providence, Rhode Island.

1:52.0

This is part two of my two-part interview with Asla Bali on the Syrian Civil War

1:58.0

and the larger geopolitical conflicts that shape the Middle East, with an emphasis on the

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