Podcast ain't play nobody real quick before we start the show I want to be clear and kind of give a little trigger warning to you if you are someone who is sensitive to descriptions of the legalities around sexual assault.

We are going to get into a little bit of what happened at Michigan State in 2017.

And if you're someone who's sensitive to that, I just want to make clear that you should probably skip from minute 7 to around

1030 that's the time frame where we'll be discussing that stuff. All right, but Mark Dantonia resigns February 4th, the day before Legacy Signing Day, February

Signing Day, whatever you want to call it.

It came out of nowhere by all accounts.

Quickly, where does Michigan State go from here? With our therapy words, I think I feel I know. I think the tires of Luke Fickle and Pat Narduzzi are going to be

kicked on this. Luke Fickle at Cincinnati and Pat Narduzzi obviously Pitt head coach former Michigan State defensive

coordinator. I think Michigan State could do a lot worse than Chris Creighton

at Eastern Michigan as well. You have kind of your own name to kind of, you know, an I feel.

And we talked about it before the show that I think could be really interesting for the job as well.

I fully agree with all the names you throughout there.

I'm going to throw on an I feel and this is not a I feel they will get this person,

but this is an I feel they should at least go after this person.

And that would be Matt Campbell at Iowa State.

They're in a weird spot here timing wise though.

They don't have the same leverage I don't believe that they might have had it if they had opened earlier in this cycle.

But this was actually a pretty good cycle to hire coaches in, but like this is a really difficult time to hire somebody.

I mean it's signing day is literally. a really

today as today as we're recording this this was out of nowhere

because d'Antonio was still employed by a certain point.

Like I don't, like if he had stepped down December 1,

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