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Street Cop Podcast

Asking For ID Without Title 39

Street Cop Podcast

Street Cop Training

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4.9967 Ratings

🗓️ 17 August 2021

⏱️ 6 minutes

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Summary

In this older episode, Dennis explains when you can and how to ask for ID without meeting the requisites for Title 39 in a Motor Vehicle Stop, bringing up relevant case laws. Recorded on 06/19/2017. Related Links: https://bit.ly/3g6SWzF https://bit.ly/2XxQgVh https://bit.ly/2VYQ7cY

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0:00.0

One, one, I can't get a way,

0:02.0

I don't get a way, uh-huh.

0:04.0

H-huh.

0:06.0

You trying to be a street cop?

0:10.0

See the guys in Gloucester County tomorrow with Rowan College for the one day case law class.

0:16.1

So people were coming out.

0:17.8

Hopefully I polishing it up all day making a real nice few guys would be a nice training

0:21.8

experience tomorrow. See you guys there at 9 a.m. It'll be good. I put a post

0:25.5

out earlier about what guys want to be a touch upon. I got a message from a guy who actually

0:29.5

requested a specific thing. I think I've touched on it before, but I'm going to clarify it for him. So it comes down to something that's a question I get a lot which is if somebody in a motor vehicle is not violating Title 39 or an offense can I ask them for identification?

0:44.7

Can I command or compel identification without a violation?

0:49.3

And am I allowed to run people?

0:50.6

And this question gets posed to me a lot.

0:52.4

And let me just do this

0:53.7

video again I know we have a lot of new members in the group don't know so I'm gonna

0:57.4

read a case tornberg versus ABC 2002 this is a United States federal

1:01.0

Supreme Court case and we've adopted it here in New Jersey and it

1:04.2

says in the absence of reasonable grounds to suspect criminal activity or other violation of

1:08.2

law on part of the passenger it would be improper for an officer to demand the

1:11.8

passengers identification after stopping a vehicle for its routine traffic violation.

1:16.4

Now, with that being said, however, you are allowed to ask under State v. Seriani 2002 as a mere field inquiry. The courts have determined that a person in the back

1:26.6

and you're asking for ID, it's the same as if you walked up to somebody on the street and ask them for

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