Brian Lairer on WNYC, and now we turn to WNYC's Nancy Solomon, who did her latest Ask

Governor Murphy call-in show last night. She usually joins us the morning after.

And, Nancy, before we go over some highlights, I just want to say, can you believe this is

your penultimate Ask Governor Murphy interview? You've been doing this for all eight years, right?

Yeah, and I, no, I can't believe it. I'm kind of sad. You know, I've really gotten to know the governor, and I love coming on your show every month. So it's kind of sad that it's coming to an end.

I don't know if we can pry a Phil Murphy years documentary out of you, but I couldn't think

of a better person to describe the arc of the Murphy administration over eight years, but no

pressure. Absolutely not.

So there was a very heated session in the New Jersey Senate last month, where Democrats

went head to head over a bill that would have defanged the state's controller who

investigates corruption. The bill was pulled last month. So the actual issue has been put to bed for now. But in the session,

the chairman of the state Senate committee, Jim Beach, quite literally yelled at who at Senator Andy Kim

and other current state legislators who were waiting to argue against the bill. And so Nancy, you know, corruption,

if that's the right frame to put on this topic,

has been one of the main things that you have done deep dives

and groundbreaking reporting about.

So to this issue, which may sound a little wonky

the way I described it,

what's up? Yeah, I mean, this is a really multi-layered story, what's going on right now in New Jersey

politics. You know, on the face of it, Senate President Nick Skutari was trying to gut the state

controller. That's the agency that investigates corruption,

waste and abuse.

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