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The Daily Stoic

Ask Daily Stoic: Ryan and Jessica Lahey Talk Parenting, the Process of Writing, and How to Fail Gracefully

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Education, Daily Stoic, Stoic, Ryan Holiday, Self-improvement, 694393, Stoic Philosophy, Business, Society & Culture, Stoicism, Philosophy

4.55.3K Ratings

🗓️ 27 June 2020

⏱️ 44 minutes

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Summary

In today’s episode, Ryan and author and teacher Jessica Lahey talk about how to teach your kids to fail, the process of putting together a book, and more.

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Jessica Lahey is the New York Times bestselling author of The Gift of Failure: How the Best Parents Learn to Let Go So Their Children Can Succeed. She has written for The New York Times and The Atlantic and has taught middle and high school for over a decade. 

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0:00.0

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0:11.7

Welcome to the weekend edition of the Daily Stoic. Each weekday we bring you a meditation inspired by the ancient Stoic, something that can help you live up to those four

0:22.0

Stoic virtues of courage, justice, wisdom, and temperance. And here on the weekend we take a deeper dive into those same topics. We interview Stoic philosophers, we reflect, we prepare, we think deeply about the challenging issues of our time. And we work through this philosophy in a way that's more possible here when we're not rushing to worker to get the kids to school.

0:51.0

We have the time to think, to go for a walk, to sit with our journals and to prepare for what the future will bring.

1:00.0

Hello, I'm Hannah and I'm Sirete and we are the hosts of a Red Handed, a weekly true crime podcast. Every week on Red Handed we get stuck into the most talked about cases, from the Idaho student killings, the Delphi murders and our recent rundown of the Murdoch saga.

1:15.0

Last year we also started a second weekly show, Short Hand, which is just an excuse for us to talk about anything we find interesting because it's our show and we can do what we like.

1:23.0

We've covered the death of Princess Diana, an unholy Quran written in Saddam Hussein's blood, the gruesome history of European witch hunting, and the very uncomfortable phenomenon of genetic sexual attraction.

1:33.0

Whatever the case, we want to know what pushes people to the extremes of human behavior. Like, can someone give consent to be cannibalized? What drives a child to kill? And what's the psychology of a terrorist?

1:44.0

Listen to Red Handed wherever you get your podcasts and access our bonus Short Hand episodes exclusively on Amazon Music, or by subscribing to Wondry Plus in Apple Podcasts or the Wondry app.

1:55.0

Hey, it's Ryan. Welcome to another episode of the Daily Stoke Podcasts for something like 10 plus years now I've been doing this email where I just recommend books every month and I started it because I had some idea that maybe in the future I wanted to be a writer and I loved books and I loved books.

2:14.0

I just wanted to recommend awesome books that I liked and thought it might be the only reason people might sign up for an email list for me. So you can imagine over the years, you know, I first I was just excited that every once in a while, a publicist from a publisher would offer me a book.

2:28.0

Then I started occasionally hearing from authors who wanted me to read their books and then I started hearing from authors who had saw that I had recommended their books and it's been this it's been this cool thing.

2:40.0

I've probably thousands and thousands of books at this point or maybe close to a thousand books. I don't know. I've recommended all sorts of books and all sorts of topics.

2:48.0

You know, in a way, it's also like sort of expanded my mind. It's sort of introduced me to a whole bunch of books. I wouldn't have read otherwise. And one of those books is a book called The Gift of Failure, how the best parents learn to let go so their children can succeed.

3:03.0

I actually read this long before I had kids Jessica, the author, Jessica Leahy. She emailed me out of the blue and she said, Hey, I think you might like my book.

3:11.0

Here's this essay that I wrote for the Atlantic about, you know, how failure is important for kids and it connects to your idea of the obstacle being the way and she was interested in stosism.

3:21.0

She sent me the book and for whatever reason that it arrived on a day when I didn't have a book to read and I started flipping through it and I just I read the whole thing and I loved it.

3:29.0

And she and I have since become friends. I went and saw her give a talk at a private school in Austin a couple years ago and and her writings been very influential in the parenting approach that my wife and I are using with her with her two young kids.

3:45.0

I wanted to have her on the podcast to talk about this idea of, you know, it's so easy to want to make things easy for your kids and maybe you had parents like that or maybe you saw kids, you knew who had parents like that.

4:00.0

And although it seems kind, it's actually quite selfish and quite destructive. Right. The Stoics were about resiliency. They were about sort of cultivating the ability to deal with challenges. Actually, a sentica talks about this. He says, if you've never been challenged like you're you're you're a deserving of pity because you don't know what you're capable of.

4:24.0

And you know, he says it's the boxer who's been bloody to who's been knocked down. That's the one who's formidable and the fight. The other one sort of falls at the first sight of blood. And so, you know, Jessica's book is really important, whether you're a parent, you know, whether you're thinking about being a parent or if you're just, you know, somebody who deals with employees or you work with children or a teacher or whatever, you know, her writing is just fantastic.

4:47.0

She's a member of the Amazon Studios Thought Leader Board. She actually helped create some of the educational curriculum for the show Stinky and Dirty, which my son is absolutely obsessed with. I've watched many, many episodes of the show.

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