Ask Daily Stoic: Ryan and Billy Bush Discuss the Stoic Reaction to Public Shaming and How to Grow Beyond It
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🗓️ 5 July 2020
⏱️ 38 minutes
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Summary
In today’s episode, Ryan and TV news anchor Billy Bush discuss how to deal with being publicly shamed, the practical use of premeditatio malorum, and what Billy learned from being enmeshed in a significant public controversy.
Billy Bush is the current anchor for TV’s Extra, with a career in broadcast journalism spanning over 20 years. He was part of one of the defining moments of the 2016 US presidential campaign, when footage was leaked of a 2005 appearance by Donald Trump on Access Hollywood during which Trump made lewd comments about various women.
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| 1:02.0 | Hello, I'm Hannah and I'm Sieruti and we are the hosts of a Redhanded, a weekly true crime podcast. Every week on Redhanded we get stuck into the most talked about cases. |
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| 1:57.0 | Hey, it's Ryan Holiday. Welcome to another episode of the Daily Still a podcast. I don't know if you remember what happened on October 7, 2016, but that date is seared into the memory of my next guest. |
| 2:15.0 | The person that I talked to on the podcast this week is someone I've gotten to know over the last three plus years, someone who I would not have expected I would get to know someone I would have not expected to have a friendship with. |
| 2:30.0 | Certainly when I was sitting down and writing my books, not someone I thought that I was writing for, but that's the direction that life takes us and specifically it took me and it's been an eye opening friendship for me. |
| 2:42.0 | It's been a sort of a humbling and an educational one for me. And it's just, you know, one I think is sort of emblematic of our times. And so the person I'm talking about, I'm talking about Billy Bush. |
| 2:54.0 | If you don't remember what happened on October 7, 2016, that is the day that the access Hollywood tape of Donald Trump, you know, sort of infamously and alarmingly talking about grabbing women by the pussy and all the other disturbing sort of gross things that were recorded on that bus while filming a segment for access Hollywood for which Billy Bush was the host. |
| 3:17.0 | And we don't need to get into the politics of it. I don't think we need to get into whether those remarks qualify or disqualify someone for president. |
| 3:28.0 | I think we can all decide that individually. What I'm interested in, I think this is very much a non-political episode. I'm interested in how does it feel to have a single event define your life. |
| 3:42.0 | How does it feel to have something that you'd utterly forgotten about that had happened years and years earlier that by the way you were not the sort of primary guilty party for come back and utterly up end your life as I say to Billy, you know, a lot of people are interested in what happened on that bus. |
| 4:01.0 | But, you know, I'm interested in the fact that basically Billy Bush got hit by the bus. And I'm interested in that not just because it's human and it's real and it deals with the intersection of technology and culture and so much of what's going on in our world right now, but because of the journey that that put Billy Bush on specifically to stoicism. |
| 4:22.0 | You know, if you read the Daily Stoic, you read the obstacle is the way he's done a number of the challenges now that we've done with Daily Stoic. |
| 4:29.0 | And he and I have had a number of discussions about stoicism since. And so when we talk about stoicism as being this philosophy for life, you know, we're not just talking about James Stockdale in a prison camp and we're not just talking about, you know, university professors, we're talking about real people who find themselves in incredible surreal, |
| 4:51.0 | real life altering situations and we're looking at how one survives that, how one picks up the pieces of their life. Again, even if you think that Billy Bush is totally guilty that he made a huge mistake that he was as complicit and what happened as Trump was, which I don't agree with at all. |
| 5:14.0 | But even if you think that do you think that he deserves the career death penalty, you know, do you think that he should be driven to despair and despondency to the point where, you know, he contemplated suicide as as I happen to know Billy did. |
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