This is undaunted life a man's Podcast. I'm your host Kyle Thompson. Let's get into it.

Joby Martin, typically, whenever I hop into one of these, I have a pretty good idea of like a funny, cold open.

But you just got through telling me that I may have hurt either bodily or the feelings of our mutual friend,

Matt Chandler. I don't know because you said he told you a little something because he was hanging

out with me and then he hopped on an airplane and went and hang out with you. I guess he was

talking some trash. Is that what I've come to find out? I wouldn't call it that. He just said that

you guys rolled and what you think is rolling light and fun is more intense than you think.

Something like that.

So is it possible that's about right.

That is about everything you think is on a five is actually on a nine and a half.

That's what I was going to ask.

Does that roll over to all areas of my life? So kind of like whenever I'm giving someone encouragement and then they start melting in front of me, is that kind of the same thing? Yeah, I think that's, I think that's right. Yes. I think you're intense Kyle is your name. Well, whenever Matt and I were rolling, here's the thing with rolling. We'll get to a position where somebody, this is when you're rolling with anybody, but

somebody that just hasn't been training for as long as you have or doesn't have, you know, distinct physical advantages or isn't as good a shape or whatever the scenario is. So just general advice is at some point during the round, you got to show them what's happening. Like what would really happen, but that doesn't have to be for the whole six minutes. But at some point during the round you got to show them what's happening like what would what would really happen but that doesn't have to be for the whole six minutes but at some point you so sometimes when I roll with white belts like I'll kind of let them move around I'll let them work as they say but at some point during that six minutes I just got to let them know to where it's just because that's the guys that taught me when I was a white belt and a blue belt, the brown belts and purple belts that smashed me and the black belts that smashed me. At some point during the round, they needed to let me know. And I'll tell the story because you've heard it before. It was one of the most disrespectful and equally funny things that has ever happened to me in my entire life. Tyler Murrah, who's a world champion now, but he's a purple belt,

I'm a white belt. We're about the same size, so we're training together a lot. We're both competing. At one point, he gets me in side control, so I'm on bottom, and he's on top side control, and we're near the edge of the mat, and I am trying with every fiber of my being to get out of this position. Well, he realizes he's a little thirsty. So he reaches

off the mat, grabs a bottle of water, unscrews the, and it's one of those really thin plastic

bottles to where, like, you have to be careful unscrewing it. So he just unscrews the bottle of the

top, sets it down, takes a little sip, screws the cap back on, sets it down, and continues rolling

all the while, Joby, I'm trying to escape. So he let me know without letting me know. Okay, let's go.

I have it. Yeah, I'm rolling with Hoyce Gracie probably 15 years ago or something, something,

long, long, long time ago. And he just is knee belly with no

hands even, really. He's just kind of surfing knee belly. And I tapped. And he was like,

that is not a move. I was like, I can't breathe, man. I don't know what to tell you, but your knee is in my lung, and I thought I was going to throw up or die, and so I'm so sorry. What's funny about that is I've done that to people with knee on belly, and also I like to do body triangle whenever I take the back, and so I've tapped a lot of people to body triangle, but all I will do is I will loosen the body

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