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Today we have a really interesting guest, really excited to have this conversation.

Ashley Stahl, she is a counterterrorism professional, but she turned career coach, speaker,

and author on a mission to help you step into a career you're excited about

and aligned with. We're going to talk about her new book out tomorrow. You've got to get a copy of

this. It's called U-turn, spelled Y-O-U, very clever. U-turn, get unstuck, discover your direction,

and design your dream career. Welcome to the show. Thank you so much for having me. I'm so excited to have this

conversation with you. Yeah, so fun. I mean, you know, there's so much more to your bio. You have a monthly

career column in Forbes. You know, you've been featured in outlets like the Wall Street Journal, CBS.

So, you know, didn't read the full pio there, but everyone can access it on the main page.

But let's just talk. I mean, people are going to be curious, like counterterrorism professional,

how the hell did you even get into that? Like, tell us a little bit about that journey.

Yeah, not such an obvious career pivot, huh? Counterterrorism to career coach. But I grew up in a

house where the news was always on. And I think a lot of people's

careers, we have these moments in our lives that we don't even realize we're making a career

decision about something without having given it real do thought or experience. So in my case,

I just grew up in a house where the news was always on. And from a really young age, I was very

exposed to what was happening in the world.

And watching my dad and my uncles always fight about politics, it was just natural for me by the

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