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The state of the presidency right now is sick.

President Trump is literally sick with coronavirus.

You have press a senior administration officials and even the president's doctor all contradicting themselves.

And our second guest, longtime Democratic strategist, Jennifer Paul-Marie.

The state of the 2020 presidential campaign is stable chaos.

In their respective fields, Ashley Parker and Jen Paul-Marie are as good as it gets.

The killer piece, as I've christened them strictly for the purposes of this podcast.

Parker started her career at the New York Times under the wing of Maureen Dowd and went on to cover Capitol Hill and the 2012 and 2016 presidential campaigns,

including the improbable general election victory of Donald Trump.

In 2017, she moved over to the Washington Post and the White House beat,

where she won herself a Pulitzer Prize as part of a team reporting on Russian interference in the last election and its fallout.

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