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The Business of Fashion Podcast

Ashley Graham on Breaking Fashion Industry Barriers

The Business of Fashion Podcast

The Business of Fashion

Fashion & Beauty, Business, Arts

4.6770 Ratings

🗓️ 15 December 2023

⏱️ 47 minutes

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Summary

After she was scouted in a modelling competition in Lincoln, Nebraska at the age of 12, Ashley Graham went on to break barriers in the fashion industry by becoming the first plus-size model to appear on the covers of both Sports Illustrated’s swimsuit issue and American Vogue.


“It started shifting the minds of agents, casting directors, art directors, editors to say, ‘Oh, this is where we're going. The zeitgeist is turning, and it's not just about what has been deemed beautiful for so long. Maybe we should think about what else is out there,’” she says.


This week on The BoF Podcast, BoF founder and editor-in-chief Imran Amed sits down with Graham to learn how she became the most recognisable face of a global cultural movement and understand the personal philosophies that have guided her along the way.



Key Insights: 

  • Raised in Lincoln, Nebraska, Ashley Graham's career began when she was scouted at a local mall at the age of 12. Though she hadn’t seen her body type represented in media before, her upbringing equipped her with the self-confidence to pursue the path. “Because I had come from a very confident home, I was able to look at my body in the mirror and be okay with it,” she says.


  • Graham’s breakthrough moment came in 2016, when she landed the cover of Sports Illustrated’s swimsuit issue. A year later, Vogue came calling. “Vogue saw that there was an opportunity for monetising a size as well as different races and ages… the impact was so great for other plus-size models,” she recalls.


  • Despite her success, Graham recognises that fashion still has a long way to go when it comes to representation, particularly when it comes to the clothes themselves. “There are so many designers that don't know how to cut around a breast, a hip or a butt because they just have not understood what that actually means,” she says. 


  • When it comes to discovering your own confidence, Graham believes its internal validation that matters most. “If more people went inward instead of searching out for everything and really leaned into prayer, meditation, quietness, then they would have more enlightenment and confidence.”


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0:00.0

Hi, this is Imran Ahmed, founder and CEO of the Business of Fashion.

0:08.4

Welcome to the Bof podcast. It's Friday, December 15th.

0:12.7

After she was scouted in a modeling competition in Lincoln, Nebraska at the age of 12,

0:17.8

Ashley Graham went on to break barriers in the fashion industry, becoming the first

0:22.6

plus-size model to appear on the covers of both Sports Illustrated swimsuit issue and American

0:28.6

Vogue.

0:29.6

It started shifting the minds of agents, casting directors, art directors, editors to say, oh, this is where we're going. The zeitgeist

0:40.9

turning. And it's not just about what has been deemed beautiful for so long. Maybe we should

0:48.9

think about what else is out there. This week on the BOF podcast, I sit down with Ashley to learn how she became the most recognizable face of a global cultural movement and to understand the personal philosophies that have guided her along the way.

1:05.3

Here's Ashley Graham on the BOF podcast.

1:10.3

Greetings, Ashley Graham. How are you?

1:13.3

I'm doing so good. I'm so happy to be here with you.

1:17.5

I know. We've been talking about this. Do you know when we first had this conversation?

1:22.3

The Nancy Dojaca show in London Fashion Week, I think that was back in February. That's when you and I first started

1:29.9

plotting for this conversation. I know. This has been, it feels like a long time coming, but I'm also glad

1:35.8

that some more exciting things have happened in the industry since. So even more to dive into.

1:44.3

Amazing. Well, we're going to get to all of that meaty stuff. I want to start, though,

1:50.3

with, as always, your personal journey. And Nebraska.

1:59.8

Where I think everybody still thinks I reside.

2:04.5

Apparently you don't, but it is a big part of your story because that's where you started your life.

2:10.5

Tell me about life in Nebraska and what's Lincoln like?

2:14.7

Well, life in Nebraska is, I have to say, easy. It's a wholesome place. It's a great

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