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Welcome to TrustMe, the podcast about cults, extreme belief, and manipulation from two salad

eaters who've actually experienced it. I'm lowly belongs. And I'm making Elizabeth.

The truth is I actually never eat salad. I have a problem where I don't eat vegetables,

and I'm working on it, but not that hard. That's okay. You don't need them. Sure. Today our guest

is Ashley Loveach, survivor of narcissistic abuse and host of the podcast The Narc End Me.

She's going to talk to us about some of the subtle tactics narcissists use to gain control

in their relationships like future faking and word salad, and what separates an abusive

narcissistic relationship from a regular shitty relationship and how the label isn't as important

as the behavior. Mm, she'll talk to us about her own experiences being in a relationship

with a narcissist, how her partner uprooted her life and made her think she needed to be

checked for all timers, the holiday experience that led her to leave him and the importance

as always of setting boundaries. That's right. Boundaries. Boundaries. Woo! We should do a

boundaries episode actually, like what that actually means and looks like. I think that would be great.

Megan, before we dive in, what's your cultiest thing? Um, you know, I've been reading a little bit

this week about the new Elizabeth Holmes. You remember Elizabeth Holmes, the woman who got

everybody to invest in there in us. Yes, those women with a very real voice. There's a new,

there's a new Elizabeth in town. Her name is Charlie. She's being sued for a lot of money by

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