You're listening to, atheistically speaking. Oh, Hello and welcome to

atheistsically speaking it's episode 96 with your host Thomas Smith as

usual. Well I hope you're having a lovely holiday time if you're listening to

this as it comes out if not you know whatever I guess I'm not you know that's you

don't get a nice wish you don't get a nice holiday wish if you're listening to this

later okay that's the price you pay. No. Okay, so I'm going to be

continuing the little interview with Michael who had a lot of interesting things to

say about the North Korea or alleged North Korea hack of Sony.

Lots of mystery swirling around that now.

New information has come out.

Sony did end up releasing it, VOD,

so we didn't have that information

when we recorded this, but I do now, so I'm telling you,

it's going to be released everywhere.

VOD, it's like YouTube and a bunch of different places.

So they are releasing it.

No, it's not a Sony, you know, conspiracy to promote the movie.

I can't believe people keep saying that.

It's so there's just no way that's what it is.

I mean, the hack was very clear and it hurt a lot of people.

So that part wasn't. North Korea thing I maybe maybe

North Korea you know if Sony could have tried to push that a little bit in order to

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