You're listening to, atheistically speaking. Oh, Hey everyone welcome to episode six of atheistically speaking. How you doing

David? Doing well. Good me too. Okay so we have some interesting stuff to talk about today. Do you want to introduce it?

Sure, so for today's episode I wanted to talk a little bit about spirituality.

The use of the word, what it means, what people mean by it, how people understand it,

and specifically its role in the discourse about atheism and how atheists sort of approach this term.

And I think we have a fantastic video that really will kind of get us started here.

So we'll be able to play that for you guys.

It'll be an interview, part of an interview with

Diana Nyad on Oprah. Yeah, so we can cue that up for you. Yes, and it's likely you guys have heard this

before because it was rather a big story at the time but we're going to go back to it because it is very

As David said it's a very good example of what what we want to talk about So I'll go ahead and start it now.

It's just this music, that's what we wanted to you. You told our producers that you're not a God person that you're a person who's deeply in awe.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I'm not a God person and do I argue against my friends who are you know religious

Buddhist Jews Christians you consider yourself atheist I'm an atheist and but you're in the awe yeah but you know I don't understand why anybody

would find you know a contradiction in that I can stand at the at the beach's edge

with the most devout Christian, Jew, Buddhist, go on down the line

and weep with the beauty of this universe and be moved by all of humanity.

All the billions of people who have lived before us

who have loved and hurt and suffered.

So to me, my definition of God is humanity and is the love of humanity and as we return to you know

I don't call you an atheist then I think if you believe in the awe okay and the wonder and in the mystery

Okay that that is what God is.

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