You're listening to, atheistically speaking. Oh, Hello and welcome to atheistically speaking this is episode 279 and I'm your host Thomas Smith.

All right, let's just get right back over to part two

with the researchers who did the no child left alone study.

Really interesting stuff.

People had some comments.

I think a lot of the comments may actually be answered in part two.

So I'll give you part two and then we'll see where we are from there. I guess maybe I'm a little more worried than you that this the evidence is great and the study is great but

how much are people going to listen to evidence and studies you know are you

worried that that it we won't be I and to be, like, this really is the reason I wanted to have you guys on,

because this seems like a gigantic issue to me.

Like it's not, I really don't want to leave my kid in the car for five minutes and get arrested.

Like it is a it really should concern everybody but at the same time I mean there are

still all kinds of phobias people have that data hasn't really impacted

you know and do you worry that it won't be enough it's almost the definition of a

phobia right exactly it's like it's impervious to data.

Right, right, right.

So for example, a lot of my peers,

now that I know, are afraid to leave their kids alone,

not because they think anything will happen to the kids,

but because they're afraid that somebody will call the cops right and that's I don't think that's a phobia because it's relatively common.

Yeah, yeah that's not yeah certainly it's not actually an unrealistic fear. My hope is in, let me see, a couple of things. There's a strong libertarian tradition in the U.S. There's a tradition of people saying, you know, parents should be able to make decisions for their kids and the law should not get involved unless there's real demonstrable statistically significant not even not just statistically

significant but practically significant danger yeah and so that's one

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