You're listening to, atheistically speaking. Oh, Hello and with Lauren about the Tim Hunt thing and then I'm going to make some comments afterward.

Let's just get right to the remainder of the discussion, shall we? You can send the same resume, one with a man's name and one with a girls net no I'm just okay

one with a woman's name see I made a joke it was okay I didn't reflect my real feelings

you're laughing see we're all happy. Everybody says, yeah.

Wait, wait, wait, you aren't representing though, you aren't a spokesperson for a scientific organization saying that.

So you can't make jokes of your spoke person.

No, no jokes, spokesperson rather. You can make jokes of your spokesperson. No, no jokes, spokesperson, rather.

You can make jokes, but you have to consider

the circumstances.

All right.

So anyway, just to finish that thought, yeah, I mean he's pointed out things like that, Sean Carol, and maybe she check him out because he does sound like a good advocate for women in science and I certainly

I think that it's a big problem our biases as regards women in science.

And I think, I understand, I just still think,

now let's say, okay, let's say we agree

that he made a joke, it reflected,

it reflected his biases it was unfair to women in science

now there's the part where what do you think the proper response to that is?

What do you think he, it sounds like you said earlier, that's also, you know, the punishment was adequate,

it wasn't too much, the fact that he lost his post and is do you not see where the just massive

online shaming becomes a bit gratuitous for that or do you think that's all

appropriate? Well I think that he chose to react by resigning.

No, he was he was they told him he pretty much had to resign otherwise they were going to fire him so he resigned to maintain dignity but that's what they that's what these organizations do they just say you're gonna need to resign and then that's

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