You're listening to, atheistically speaking. Oh, Hello and welcome to episode 133 of atheistically speaking. I'm your host Thomas Smith.

Joining me is Jeff Louder. How are you doing Jeff?

Good, how are you Thomas? I'm doing great. Welcome to the show. I'm really

excited to talk to you. I've been following you on Twitter for quite a while and I really like

I'm glad we're going to get down in the nitty gritty on some arguments.

Well, good, thanks. I'm glad to be here.

So would you mind giving us a bit of your background for anyone who's not familiar with you?

I follow your secular outpost Twitter. long have you been at it what's your how

did you start doing what you're doing all that kind of stuff so I have kind of

an interesting path. I chose to enroll in a Christian university, Seattle

Pacific University, as an agnostic. I didn't enter a Christian and then

become a non-Christian while I was there. I entered as a non-Christian and they were gracious enough unlike some Christian

universities to be open to non-Christian's attending and my logic was that I wanted to study the claims and evidence for

Christianity from people who believe it rather than get some watered down

a lame version of it from someone who wasn't passionate about it.

And I actually ended up writing my honors thesis on the historicity of Jesus's resurrection.

Oh, wow.

And compare the arguments of William Lane Craig and Josh McDow

to the arguments of Michael Martin and Dan Barker.

And got a lot of praise from my Christian professors for how open-minded I was and how I was equally

willing to criticize both Christians and atheists.

And that's probably a good summary, if you will,

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