You're listening to, atheistically speaking. Oh, Hello and welcome to atheistically speaking this is episode 116 with your host

Thomas Smith and very shortly I will be joined by no illusions and he then

right who you no doubt know from Monday's episode and that's it.

No, you know them from the most popular atheist podcast, one of the most popular the scathing atheist and they're up-and-coming new

podcast of course the Skeptocrat so that's where you know these guys and of

course Noah's been on the show several times this was was he's first time, glad to finally get him on.

And we're going to carry on right where we left off. So I will go ahead and switch over to that right now. So you mentioned your candidates for gray areas that are not so easy clear cut.

It seemed to be something like fracking and did you have any others along those lines that you think are a little more gray area that it's not not necessarily like this is the obvious answer.

Well let's take abortion for example.

You know there's a there's a subject where I think we can all agree there's a gray area.

I think you know you know.

I don't know.

Can we agree that I would say there's a black and white.

Yeah I agree with you. I had a pro-life atheist on my show that some like a month or two ago is very interesting but anyway

gone well no but at look I mean at some point in development it is no longer

moral to terminate you know terminate the development.

Okay, so we can all agree that there is, you know,

some line there.

Right, somewhere between, you know,

orgasm and full human being

yeah and 20 year old kid yeah so you know so we can all agree that there is a line there

somewhere is that line you know the first breath is that line when the kid can take care of itself

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