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The Daily

As Trump Purges Immigration Judges, One Speaks Out

The Daily

The New York Times

News, Daily News

4.3107.8K Ratings

🗓️ 23 June 2026

⏱️ 36 minutes

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Summary

Judges are coming under significant pressure from the administration to carry out deportations or risk losing their jobs.

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0:00.0

From New York Times, I'm Michael Bobarrow.

0:03.7

This is a daily.

0:12.9

Throughout his second term, President Trump has been blocked over and over by federal courts,

0:19.6

except that is, for a little-known court system

0:22.9

that oversees immigration.

0:25.7

Today, my colleague, Nicholas Nehamas,

0:29.5

brings us the inside story of how the president

0:32.1

has systematically pressured the judges in that system

0:35.5

to carry out his agenda, and speaks with one of those judges

0:39.5

about the fallout. It's Tuesday, June 23rd.

0:55.8

Nick, welcome to the show. Thanks for having me. Nick, welcome to the show.

0:57.4

Thanks for having me.

1:09.9

Nick, talk for a moment about why in this moment you decided to spend so much time reporting on the judges of the United States immigration court system.

1:16.8

Well, I think that when most Americans think about President Trump's immigration crackdown,

1:22.0

they picture the shock and awe campaign that dominated the headlines for months,

1:29.3

the images of federal agents being sent into U.S. cities to do mass raids and arrest as many immigrants as possible. Right. Generated a huge amount of outrage consumed the country for weeks. Exactly.

1:36.7

But what we found is that while that was sucking up most of the attention, the administration

1:42.4

was also engaged in a quieter, much more meticulous

1:46.6

overhaul of a hugely consequential part of the immigration system. And that's the immigration court

1:52.8

system. That's basically the process that decides an immigrant's fate and can order them removed

1:59.6

from the country. Or decide to keep them in the country.

2:02.7

Yes, right.

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