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BBC Sounds, music, radio, podcasts. Hello, it's 1,287 days since Russia began its full-scale invasion of Ukraine. And Vitaly, President Putin, is in China. Why? To attend a meeting of what essentially is anti-NATO,

if you don't like the Western rule-based order, rules-based order,

you've got to be there.

Broadly speaking, I think it would be fair to say

that most of them are not really huge fans of that order that we saw after the Second World War.

Sure. Well, you might argue then President Trump should be there, if that's the definition.

As we're recording, there's still lots of rumours swirling around about where he is and part of me can't help thinking, could he be on his way to China?

Is he there?

Jokingly, of course.

Obviously, it's all hosted by the Chinese President Xi Jinping.

The North Korean leader, Kim Jong-un, is there. So is the leader of Belarus and almost 30 other

leaders as well. A meeting of what's known as the Shanghai Corporation Organization just

finished and now the scene is set for China's very own Victory Day Parade.

And we've heard from a lot of world leaders about the war in Ukraine in recent months. We

actually haven't heard very much from President Xi at all. He rarely references the war directly,

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