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Well, Pastor Greg, we're making available your new book called As It Is in Heaven this month, and I know you have some investments in heaven.

One of them is a lady you referred to as Mama Stella.

And a number of years ago we talked with her on the phone right here on this program.

Let's go back in time and hear that.

Mama Stella, are you there?

Hi, Greg.

I'm Mama Stella, how are you?'m Miss Stella, how are you?

Oh, I'm fine, how are you?

Oh, great.

Good to hear your voice.

It's always good to hear your voice.

Tell us a little bit about Greg when he was growing up.

What kind of a little boy was he?

Well, he was a sweet little boy was he? Well, he was a sweet little boy.

He was smiling all the time and that blonde curly hair.

And he was real easy to get along with.

You know, Dave, my grandmother, she was the first one that really exposed me to the Bible and I remember going to church with her and in fact right after I became a Christian one of the first people I called was my grandmother.

I was delighted to have the little part of it, and God bless you, Greg.

Thanks, Mom Estella.

Isn't that great? You know, she's one of the people waiting for you in heaven,

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