This is a BBC Radio 4 download. You're listening to me. Claire Balding with another edition of ramblings.

You join me in the porch of a church. This is St Catherine's and St Peter's in Winterbourne Bassett.

And I'm not whispering because the service is going on. I'm just whispering because the doors are open behind me and I sort of feel I should.

Matt Hopwood is going to be my walking companion today as we walk out of the porch, which means actually now I can talk of a normal level.

But Matt, you've actually stayed the night in this church, haven't you?

Yeah. Last year I began a pilgrimage from here to Aberyn, then up to Linda's Farm.

And the first night...

Sorry, all the way to Linda's farm, that's like nearly 500 miles, isn't it?

Yeah, yeah. It was part of a project I do, gathering love stories.

And the starting point was here.

This is a great church of pilgrimage of hospitality and there's lots of recent

discoveries about this church. There's some amazing graffiti on the walls. So in medieval times,

this was a really important place where people made pilgrimages from to Jerusalem, Santiago, etc.

So that's why I started here. So the night yeah it's very interesting we're in

Wiltshire just west of of Morbara and if you know Avebury well that's our end destination

I suspect that even on a grey grim very chilly rainy day like today it still will have a car

pack full of coaches and tourists coming out to see these incredible standing stones.

We're going to walk to Avery. How many miles is that for me?

It's not many miles. It's probably only about four miles. What we do is we'll head up onto the

ridgeway and then we'll travel along and we can see down into the valley and then we'll make

our way down the green path, which is the old drovers Road, and then down into the stone circle to finish.

Matt, this is Archie, by the way. He's my dog.

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