The truth is I don't know how a political person I would be if I had not been born.

A woman in a world that is inherently misogynistic and a queer person is the thing that is inherently homophobic and specifically a

butch lesbian is the thing that has affected my identity more than anything.

You are listening to Made of Human also known as the Mole

a podcast hosted by Sophie Hagen

who is a Danish comedian trying to find out how to do life

but it turns out nobody knows Mopah.

I will be honest with

Grace Petri, it was always, this episode should have, when I was recording this episode with Grace Petri,

it was hard to me to not be thinking about how it should come out immediately.

We recorded this on a Tuesday after the election in December 2019 and it was so necessary at the time.

So I was feeling conflicted about what to do because it definitely should have come

out immediately because we all needed to hear everything that Grace is saying. But it was very close to Christmas.

My edits have gone on a very disturbed holiday. I was basically a broken person and it just wasn't going to happen.

Unfortunately, it's still relevant.

I wish that I could say, oh, that was back when everything was really dark and sad and,

oh, it seemed like the world was not going to be a better place.

Hopefully you can still find value in it even though now everything's amazing, but I can't I can't because it's still shit so I think Grace's words

Well, unfortunately

Still be relevant

It's an amazing episode. I say that as it's you know what's real one thing is

disgrace being an amazing person but just hearing someone who's this

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