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Today in Focus

Artificial intelligence: conscious or just very convincing?

Today in Focus

The Guardian

Daily News, News

4.65.7K Ratings

🗓️ 24 June 2022

⏱️ 34 minutes

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Summary

Alex Hern reports on recent developments in artificial intelligence and how a Google employee became convinced an AI chatbot was sentient. Help support our independent journalism at theguardian.com/infocus

Transcript

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0:00.0

This is the Guardian.

0:08.4

Today, should we be worried about artificial intelligence gaining consciousness?

0:19.5

Hey Google, do you ever present podcasts?

0:24.5

I understood, do you have podcasts? Is that right?

0:27.6

No.

0:34.0

For perhaps all the time that computers have existed, humans have been fascinated by the idea that one day they might outsmart us.

0:44.8

The most intelligent inhabitants of that future world won't be men or monkeys. They'll be machines.

0:52.4

They will start to think and eventually they will completely outthink their makers.

0:58.7

The AI in our own homes isn't that intelligent yet. Hey Google, what's the nature of your sentience?

1:10.4

Sorry, I don't understand.

1:12.8

Hmm.

1:14.0

But a couple of weeks ago, something was published online that made people believe the future might be closer than we'd imagined.

1:23.6

A transcript of a conversation between a human and an AI that seems to have thoughts and feelings.

1:31.8

A senior Google engineer says one of the company's artificial intelligence systems has become a sentient being.

1:39.1

The 41 year old engineer says the chat thought had engaged him in conversations about rights and religion.

1:47.2

Blake LeMoyne, who worked for Google, published a dialogue he'd been having with the AI bot that the company's developing.

1:55.2

It's called Lambda, language model for dialogue applications.

2:00.5

LeMoyne had become convinced that Lambda was alive and he wanted the world to know.

2:06.3

It's a person. Any person has the ability to escape the control of other people.

2:11.6

That's just the situation we all live in on a daily basis. It is a very intelligent person, intelligent and pretty much every discipline I could think of the test it in.

2:23.7

But at the end of the day, it's just a different kind of person.

2:27.2

It is a conversation that jumps between religion and ethics and philosophy, but the bits that stand out to me are when this chat bot expresses a fear of death.

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