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‘Artificial General Intelligence’ Is Apparently Coming. What Is It?

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🗓️ 16 January 2025

⏱️ 18 minutes

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Summary

For years, AI companies have said that AGI is coming soon. But what does the term mean, and what is the science behind it?

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0:00.0

Listener supported, WNYC Studios.

0:11.2

This is Science Friday.

0:13.5

I'm Ira Plato.

0:14.8

And I'm Flora Lichten.

0:16.2

Today in the podcast, tech companies are in a race to create AGI, artificial general intelligence. But what does

0:23.5

that actually mean? I'm not fond of the term because it is so ill-defined. If you're not familiar

0:33.2

with AGI, that's what we're going to do. We're going to try to get you in the loop. Let's start.

0:39.1

Open AI is an organization founded in 2015. It makes the chatbot chat GPT. It has also said that its

0:47.1

founding goal was to build AGI. That is a system that according to the founders, quote, benefits all of humanity and gives everyone

0:56.7

incredible new capabilities. Others in the field, like DeepMind co-founder Demis Hasabas,

1:03.6

have called AGI, quote, a system that should be able to do pretty much any cognitive

1:08.8

tasks that humans can do. On the other hand, OpenAI CEO Sam Altman

1:14.1

said, AGI would, quote, matter much less than people think. So which is it? Will AGI elevate all of

1:21.7

humanity? Or will it end up not mattering that much? And just what is artificial general intelligence supposed to

1:29.8

mean anyhow? A lot to unpack here. Who better to answer these questions than someone who

1:35.6

researchers the intersection of machine and human intelligence? That would be Dr. Melanie Mitchell,

1:41.7

professor of complexity at the Santa Fe Institute, where she

1:45.6

researches cognition in artificial intelligence and machine systems.

1:50.0

Welcome back to Science Friday.

1:51.3

Been a while.

1:52.5

Yeah, thanks for having me.

1:54.2

Nice to have you back.

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