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Atheists, agnostics, long-haired winters, short-haired winters Love the government, hug the government, love the government, hug the government, love, the government.

Welcome to the politics, guys, a place for bipartisan, rational, and civil debate on American politics and policy.

I'm Trey Orndorf, a political scientist at Oklahoma Christian University.

And I'm joined today by Jay Carson, an Ohio area attorney and the

Defender of Freedom. Jay, welcome to the midweek's politics guys. Great to be here.

This is fun. I'm glad I get to, I got to get to participate in this project that you and Ken have

been working on. Yeah, I mean, it's been a lot of fun. You know, when we first even thought about it, we had kind of maybe envisioned more of us

getting to be a piece of it.

And, but, you know, it's hard because you get weeks off and you don't want to be on.

But it's a lot of fun that we, the two of us are going to get to take on the Constitution. So in this show, what we do, all the midweeks, we're always breaking away from the news

cycle and we're taking something on.

And so what Ken and I have chosen to take on, like, I don't know, any academic would

like is like a 132 part ongoing series.

I feel a little bit like the Federalist Papers on that front, Jay.

It was like, listen, I've got one more thing.

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