The following podcast contains explicit language.

I'm Ezra Klein from Box and Panoples Podcast Weets.

And I'm doing something different today.

I sat down with Arthur Brooks, who is the president of the American Enterprises Institute,

one of DC's biggest think tanks.

We'll send the right think tank.

Arthur just wrote the conservative heart.

He is a call must for the New York Times.

He thinks a lot about happiness and about its intersection with public policies.

We're really fascinating guy.

As you'll hear on the podcast, the really snappy dresser.

And he and his think tank really matter.

When Politico recently wrote up who Jeb Bush is intellectual influences where

Arthur was one of the first people named.

So we have a really wide ranging conversation about what is the role of a think tank.

How do you manage big organizations?

How do people sort of attain happiness at work?

What kind of happiness is possible in different kinds of work?

What book he wished he had read at 20?

I really enjoyed the conversation.

I hope you will too.

You can email me at weeds at box.com and tell me if you like this sort of thing.

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