That's when you stop running from success to success,

and you start on the transcendental walk

to actually experience your life moment to moment.

Welcome to the Psychology Podcast.

In this episode, I talked to prolific author

and social scientist Arthur Brooks

about finding meaning in the second curve of life.

According to Arthur, the world in our biology

urges to relentlessly chase after the next win.

This flawed formula for satisfaction

ultimately leaves us unfulfilled.

To find true purpose,

Arthur argues we must break our addiction to success

and confront life's hard truths.

In this episode, we also touch on the topics

of motivation, relationships, aging, transcendence, and love.

I always enjoy talking to Arthur Brooks,

and I think you will enjoy this conversation as well.

So without further ado, I bring you Arthur Brooks.

Arthur, how's it going, man?

Doing great, how are you?

I'm doing good, I'm doing really good.

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