Hello, this is Victor Davis Hanson. I'm on the Victor Davis Hanson show. I'm alone today.

Jack Fowler, our co-host and Sammy Wink are not with me. it's one of our Victor Davis Hanson interview shows.

I'm really happy today and honored that we have the figurative artist sculpture,

Sabine Howard, who has been working on this monumental task of the World War I

monument and first of all before we go anywhere we have to take a break and

then we'll come right back. And we'll come right back. we're back with a Victor Hanson interview of Sabon Howard and Sabon I'd like before we even

start I'd like people to know what's your background what are you doing what is the

World War I project? I am a

figurative Renaissance contemporary sculptor I began sculpting 42 years ago

Wow have 80,000 hours of working with life models.

So an incredibly traditional type of art that comes from the lineage of Western civilization. My heroes are

Michelangelo and the Hellenistic period of the Greeks and I entered into a competition in 2015.

It was a blind global competition for the National World War I Memorial.

And as 2016 in January I was announced that I was the winner with

Joseph Weish architect in training and I am sculpting, I finished sculpting actually.

And you're...

Well, we've finished sculpting a foot-long bronze wall with 38 figures that weighs 25 tons that will be placed in

Pershing Park on September 13th of this year.

To give our listener some idea, is it something comparable to the classical idea of a freeze

course like the four, I know it's not 450 feet like the Parthenon freeze, but is that the idea that it's going to be a relief freeze of kind of a panoramic

narrative as I understand it? Is that what you're... so it's a monument you want to ask?

Yeah, you think of it as a bronze film that unfolds as you walk from the left to the right.

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