And welcome to this midweek special episode and in this one I chat with

Catherine Benfield Laura Johnson and Lily Bailey and I did this last weekend at a conference called

O. C. D. in society which happened in London in the UK and the conference was put

together by Eva Stepney who's been on the show before and Matt Hiller.

So as part of the conference I did a live podcast in front of the attendees, the audience

so it was good fun and I wanted to release it to you guys so you could hear the good

audience questions at the interview too.

There were really good audience questions at the end,

but however for anonymity,

I've removed those questions to keep the identities of the people asking private.

The theme of the live podcast was called Art as Healing and it was looking at these free fine UK-based advocates and how they use

their various art talents and creativities to express what it means and feels like to have OCD and also sharing information

with everyone who wants to listen. So with that in mind we'll get straight to this live recording. So I hope you enjoy it.

And to these three people, so I'll start introducing them. We got Lily Bailey, who is of course an author. She also wrote because we are bad which is more of a

memoir about your story. Yeah. Laura Johnson from ACD Doodles if you're on

Instagram you probably follow her.

And Catherine Benfield, who is an advocate.

She's Taming Olivia.com, and she recently, executive produced this,

waving, which you're obviously going to talk about,

but it's got a well-known actor in it

using Game of Thrones and stuff.

Is that?

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