Hello and welcome to another episode of the Arsenal Women's Arts cast on arsplog.com.

June edition, not a mailbag this time. We did promise you earlier this month with the mailbag

edition that would be getting some very special guests later on in June.

I believe we have delivered on that promise. One of the things I want to talk about in the first half of this episode,

so the second half of the episode, we've got my chat with Susie Rack coming up about her book,

a women's game, the rise, fall and rise again of women's football, so that's going to be in part two.

But in part one, a kind of an aspect of football coverage. I've always been fascinated about,

we all know about, but don't really talk about enough, I think, commentators and co-commentators.

And they're so ubiquitous in our kind of experience of football. And some of us absolutely live our

experience of our football teams and just football in general through pundits, through commentators,

through co-commentators. Just think of some of those legendary lines that are associated with the

biggest moments in football history. And you kind of realise what an important but quite

understated role that commentators and co-commentators have, particularly in a kind of shifting media

landscape. So I thought I would get to the best in the business to talk about that with me.

To probably names you'll be familiar with, but if not voices, you will certainly be familiar with.

First of all, from BBC, Match of the Day, probably a lot of the WSL coverage that you all hear.

We've got Robin Cohen, Robin, thanks for joining us.

Well, thank you. Thank you for a very kind introduction. I hope I live up to it.

And so obviously we'll get the kind of the commentators view from Robin. And then on the kind of

co-com side, because obviously that's a really interesting role as well and actually quite a different

role to that of commentator, delighted to be joined by Lucy Ward. Lucy, thanks for joining us.

Thanks for inviting me. I'm looking forward to it.

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