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Coming up, we'll be asking if Frank Lampard can survive after Everton were heavily beaten by Brighton.

And what did Arsenal and Newcastle's draw last night tell us about what both sides have to do off the pitch to get to that next level after a night of frustration for Mikhail Artetta?

I'm Ian Irving and this is the Athletic Football Podcast. Chakar who tries to pull it back. Again, huge appeals. And again, the referee turned those appeals down.

Artetta has gone mad on the touchline.

The Arsenal players are surrounding the referee.

Newcaste wanted to set up like this.

There is not the way they play.

They haven't played against any team like this.

So it's great to our place.

I wanted to win the game, but we draw it and we should have done certain things better,

especially in the final third, and we should have two penalties to win the game,

and then it was a different story.

Right, alongside us today, we have the Athletics Newcastle writer Chris Woff

and also journalists and former Arsenal midfielder, Adrian Clark.

Gentlemen, I hope you behave a little better than the two benches at the Emirates last night.

Please play nice.

Adrian, what did you make of it?

It was a dramatic nil-nill-nill draw is probably the way I'd put it.

It was, it was feisty.

My initial reaction is that Newcastle United earned their point.

Yeah.

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