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The Lead

Arrogance, Apathy, And The Pac-12's Demise

The Lead

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3.92.2K Ratings

🗓️ 15 August 2023

⏱️ 31 minutes

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Summary

Late last week, the Pac-12 conference — which dates back more than a century — was suddenly showing signs of completely falling apart, with Oregon and Washington among the latest schools to leave. Today, we look at the rich history of a conference that produced John Elway, Aaron Rodgers, and Alex Morgan (among others), and how a strange combination of arrogance and apathy has brought it to the brink of extinction. Plus, what the mass Pac-12 exodus means for the teams that have left — and the ones left behind.

Guest: Stewart Mandel, The Athletic

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Imagine you're walking down the street and you see someone famous. Really famous. What do you do?

0:15.0

Play it cool or stop and stare? Play it cool.

0:18.0

But also, yes, stop and stare.

0:20.0

Now others have spotted this a-lister. They're staring too and some of them aren't playing it cool at all.

0:27.0

Now imagine you're not the one staring at the celebrity. You are the celebrity, staring back.

0:33.0

Oh, you've got pots of money, adoring fans and a big house. But look, you've also got all of us watching, judging.

0:41.0

Being really, really famous, it's not easy.

0:45.0

They say be careful what you wish for.

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1:19.0

Wondery.

1:24.0

Late last week, the Pac-12 conference, which dates back more than a century, suddenly found itself completely falling apart.

1:34.0

This week, five teams, including Oregon, Washington, and Arizona, announce their plans to leave the conference that brings the total of Pac-12 teams' jumping ship to eight.

1:45.0

Today, the athletic Stuart Mandel tells us how a strange combination of arrogance and apathy took the Pac-12 from arguably its highest point a dozen years ago to now facing extinction.

1:58.0

So many decisions that would benefit a hindsight, you go, why did you do that?

2:03.0

But it's in conference realignment, man. There's backstabbing, there's betrayals. You can't trust anybody.

2:08.0

Plus, what the Mass Pac-12 Exodus means for the teams that have left, and the ones left behind.

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