ARP387 The Jay Treaty

American Revolution Podcast

Michael Troy

History, Education

4.8 • 1.1K Ratings

🗓️ 17 May 2026

⏱️ 35 minutes

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In 1794, the US and Britain are on the brink of war. President Washington sends Chief Justice John Jay to London to negotiate a treaty. He returns with a proposed treaty so bad that Americans want to kill him. Washington signs it anyway. This episode's, blog entry, at⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠blog.AmRevPodcast.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ includes a complete transcript, as well as more resources related to this week's episode. Book Recommendation of the Week:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠The Jay Treaty Debate, Public Opinion, and the Evolution of Early American Political Culture, by Todd Estes. Online Recommendation of the Week: "Further Concessions Cannot be Attained" The Jay Grenville Treaty and the Politics of Anglo-American Relations, 1789-1807. https://repository.tcu.edu/server/api/core/bitstreams/5358e931-9251-4cdc-ac89-0c98e450b951/content Join the podcast mail list: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://mailchi.mp/d3445a9cd244/american-revolution-podcast-by-michael-troy⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ARP T-shirts and other merch: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://merch.amrevpodcast.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Ask your American Revolution Podcast questions on Quora: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://amrevpod.quora.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Join the Facebook group, American Revolution Podcast: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.facebook.com/groups/132651894048271⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow the podcast on X ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@AmRevPodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Support this podcast on Patreon ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.patreon.com/AmRevPodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ or via PayPal ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://paypal.me/AmRevPodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Next month's Round Table Book: The Banker Who Made America: Thomas Willing and the Rise of the American Financial Aristocracy, 1731-1821, by Richard Vague - Go to https://bookshop.org/shop/ARP. Find the book in my bookshop and use the code ARP15 to save 15% off the price. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:28.6	Hello, and thank you for joining the American Revolution.
0:43.1	This week, episode 387, the J Treaty.
0:47.3	Imagine walking through a major city and seeing crowds of people seething in anger
0:52.2	to the point where they are guillotining or burning an effigy,
0:56.0	the Chief Justice of the United States. This is exactly what happened in many towns and cities
1:01.4	across America in the summer of 1795. The focus of their wrath was Chief Justice John Jay.
1:09.7	This wasn't over any Supreme Court decision. Instead, it was over a treaty
1:14.4	that Jay had negotiated with Britain to prevent another war between the two countries. It would become
1:20.8	known as the Jay Treaty, perhaps the most hated treaty in all of American history. To understand
1:27.4	the reasons for this level of hatred,
1:29.6	we need to understand why the U.S. needed this treaty and why it was so controversial. As we've
1:35.4	discussed over the last few episodes, pretty much all of Europe was at war with France in the early
1:40.5	1790s following the French Revolution. The U.S., still struggling under debts from
1:46.5	the Revolutionary War, was in no mood to get involved in a new war. President Washington desperately
1:53.0	tried to maintain U.S. neutrality. That would prevent the necessity to spend money on a wartime
1:59.5	army and navy, while still trying to maintain the trade
2:03.1	necessary to fund the government through tariffs. It was with this concern that Washington sent
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