Army and politicians at war - and Inside Trump’s mind with Barak Ravid

Unholy: Two Jews on the News

Unholy Media

News, Yonit Levi, News Commentary, Society & Culture, Jews, Religion & Spirituality, Israel, Jewish, Judaism, Israel Podcast, Middle East, Jonathan Freedland, Documentary

4.7 • 770 Ratings

🗓️ 27 November 2025

⏱️ 75 minutes

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Summary

Tensions at the top of Israel’s security establishment escalate, as a public rift between the chief of staff and the defence minister deepens — raising questions about leadership and accountability in a time of war. Yonit and Jonathan break down what this clash reveals about Israel’s security apparatus. In New York, protests outside a synagogue leave local Jews unsettled and anxious about the city’s new mayor. Plus: Barak Ravid, one of Washington’s most connected reporters and a leading interpreter of Donald Trump’s political instincts, joins to discuss the president’s strategy and his unique approach to global affairs — and what it could mean for Israel in the months ahead.

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0:00.0	The bust up between Israel's military chief of staff and the defence minister rises,
0:06.7	or maybe that should be, sinks to a whole new level.
0:09.7	There are protests outside a synagogue in New York that has Jews there worried about their new mayor.
0:16.9	And we will speak to a preeminent Trump whisperer.
0:21.1	Barak Ravid is our guest.
0:23.0	It's Unholy.
0:24.1	I'm Jonathan Friedland in London.
0:26.4	And I'm Unholy.
0:27.3	In Tel Aviv.
0:40.3	Unholy, two Jews on the news.
0:47.4	Look, you normally don't like it when we talk about the weather, Jonathan, because you think it's a cliche for English man to be talking about the weather.
0:48.2	I admit.
0:50.9	And I say that because I love talking about the weather.
0:51.8	That's the whole point.
0:53.4	It's such a cliche, but it's true. We, Brits do love talking about the weather. But go on whole point. It's such a cliche, but it's true. We, we, Brits, do love talking about the weather. But go on this week. It has been a crazy, you know, November here. Heat waves. Now, as I speak to you now, it's, I hope you're jealous a little bit of this, but it's 25 degrees in Tel Aviv, which is like 77 Fahrenheit. Last week, it was over 30 degrees in Tel Aviv.
1:13.0	I mean, if anyone's still trying to deny global warming, this is where we are.
1:17.7	As I said, I think it's probably not the same picture in London right now.
1:21.3	But, you know, I could be sitting t-shirts and tank tops as we speak.
1:25.7	Yeah, that would be a story, obviously, in itself, if you did that for our recording.
1:30.0	But the, no, I mean, obviously it's grey here and, you know, bright, but it's a bright grey
1:35.6	rather than anything else.
1:37.3	But no, when I saw that last week, that it went over 30 and I think into the mid-90s,
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