Welcome to Grusome, your horrific true crime podcast.

I am Meg and our wayward daughter, Connie,

is going to tell us about Armin Mives today.

When I was researching him, I couldn't, like, not say like,

Mives. Mives, like, just like a very, angry German one.

I was like, I love it. I i love i love it um i want to

add that i am set on what to call you for the rest of eternity with that video i sent you of like

what to things to call you frank meg you're like making notes for the future. I do like those videos.

I forget all of them already that you told me.

So that every one of a, they'll be a surprise.

Me too.

Shout out to my mom for naming me.

Connie, because there's no, there's never going to be a video.

Like, hey, did you name your daughter and old lady's name?

Do I have something for you? We were talking about your name video like, hey, did you name your daughter and old lady's name? Do I have something for you?

We were talking about your name on Thanksgiving. Because I know you come up so often in my life.

We were talking about your name because my stepdaughter's girlfriend has a traditional, like her name is Mexican or like Spanish.

It's, she is a Mexican girl.

And she was, my husband looked at me and he says, what's Connie's full name?

I was like, it's just Connie.

Yeah, but she doesn't have anything else. And I feel like my mom was tripping acid, like when she said it. Like, and I'm the only one that has a name like this, and it's very like, ugh. Like, because, like, everyone in my family, cousins, all of us, we all have two middle names. Like, every single one of us do. Like, my mom has,

like, all of her sisters have two middle names. Like, it's just like a, it's a Castello thing. And, um, or maybe it's a Hispanic thing and it's just like, we, you know, whatever. But, uh, my mom was like, you know what? I could give her two normal names, but I'm going to give her an old lady's name, and then I'm

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