And don't go out in the street little girl and don't go out into town. Now you don't know who Welcome to Armed Love, episode 5 of the Antiifada side project where we talk about the

revolutionary culture of the 60s and its remembrance and recurrence today.

My guest today is Jenny Brown, an organizer with National Women's Liberation, and the author

of Without Apology The Abortion Struggle Now, and a former collaborator with the Red Stocking's Collective.

Thanks for joining us, Jenny Brown.

How you feeling tonight?

Oh, pretty good.

Good to be here.

Yeah, and we're recording, we're going to probably release this next week, but recording this right before this ominous election,

which is largely on the topic that we'll be talking about, about relating to women's liberation and the abortion struggle.

With that in mind, what are your thoughts about the election?

Doesn't even matter to you?

Oh, yeah, I mean, there's really significant stuff

going to be happening in terms of referenda. So in Michigan they have a

referendum on basically protecting abortion rights in the in the state and in

Massachusetts there is a tax the millionaires referendum that's going to be

really important and then just in general you know there's there are a lot of cases

where it's basically an outright fascist who's going who's running and

you know obviously we're we do better with with sort of the even the neoliberal

Democrats than we do with with these people who are just trying to get rid of

any semblance of democracy.

So in terms of like the struggle terrain,

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